How a Gas Log Safety Pilot Works
and how to light a gas log safety pilot.
For details about gas log burners read: Gas Log Burners and Safety Pilot Controls
How does a gas log safety pilot work?
Aside from the electronic ignition systems, the basic premise for the safety pilots used on gas logs is the same as those used for decades with wall heaters,
hot water heaters, and nameless other gas appliances.
How do you light a gas log safety pilot?
You turn the control knob to the pilot position, push the knob in, light the pilot with a match, then hold the knob down for 30 seconds or so until the pilot stays lit by itself. Once the pilot light
will stay lit on its own, you can then move the knob to the "On" position. For manually operated gas logs such as the one pictured to the right, this will turn the logs on. For remote controlled
gas logs, this will put the valve in the necessary position for the remote control to actuate the burner.
What if the pilot will not stay lit?
If you cannot get the pilot to light at all, meaning you hold the button down in the pilot position and hold a match up to the pilot and nothing happens,
then either the valve is bad or something is abstructing the gas from coming into or going through the valve. If you can get the pilot to light with a match, but it will not stay
lit on its own after holding down the knob for 30 seconds, then put the knob back into the off position, wait 5 minutes and try again. If it still will not light, then something is definately wrong and
you should have a professional check it out.
This page is not meant to be a trouble-shooting guide for gas logs, but in general, if you cannot get your safety pilot to stay lit, It could be that the pilot flame needs adjustment, the
thermocouple has gone bad and needs to be replaced, the entire valve has overheated and must be replaced, or something is abstructing the gas line. In any case, it is probably time to seek the assistance
of a professional. Any plumber or heating and air conditioning service man who deals with gas appliances with a safety pilot should be able to help you.
How does a safety pilot actually work?
Although most of us have learned how to light one of these things at some time or other, few of us have any idea as to how this ingenious little safety system actually works.
So here is a brief, but hopefully useful explanation of how gas log safety pilots work so you can decide if it is something that you want or need. You may also find this information
helpful for any other device that has a similar safety pilot.
Gas Logs that have a safety pilot have a valve body that is attached directly to the burner. This valve body that has 2 separate valves inside that control the gas:
The valve to the main burner and the valve to the pilot flame.
When the pilot is lit, the flame directly hits what is called a thermocouple (or thermopile).
The thermocouple is the ingenious device that makes the whole system work. The physical properties of the thermocouple are such that it actually generates electricity when there is a great
enough difference in temparature between the tip of the thermocouple and the base.
If the pilot flame is too hot, then the entire thermocouple gets hot and there is not enough temperature difference to create a current. If the pilot
flame is too low or not coming into direct contact with the thermocouple (or simply blown out), then there is not enough heat to generate a current.
This is why the proper adjustment of the pilot flame is necessary for gas appliances that have a safety pilot.
Now, on to how the pilot system works.
The electricity from the thermocouple is used to power an electromagnet that holds the pilot valve open, thus allowing the pilot to stay lit by itself. The amount of electricity needed
must be within a certain range of millivolts in order for this to happen. If there is not enough electricity (or no electricity) being generated,
then the electromagnet no longer functions and the pilot valve shuts. When you turn the knob to the pilot position and push it in, you are in fact manually opening the valve to the
pilot flame. Once the pilot gets the thermocouple hot enough, the electromagnet engages and keeps the valve open.
This is why you need to keep the knob depressed for about 30 seconds.
After the pilot is lit and stays lit on its own after releasing the pilot know, you can then turn the knob to the "ON" position.
With manually operated safety pilots, turning the knob to the on position
will light the logs and you can adjust the flame height using the control knob.
With remote controlled systems, turning the knob to the on position simply puts the main valve in a position to be opened and closed
buy whatever means the remote control uses. In the case of a remote controlled valve, some will have a battery operated device that opens and closes the valve to the main burner, thus turning the logs
on and off. More sophisticated systems (called variable flame remotes) will have a battery operated motor attached to the flame adjustment knob that will allow you to adjust the flame height as well.
The main burner valve is designed such that if the pilot valve is closed, no gas can flow through the main valve, even if you have it in the on position.
So as long as the pilot light is on and heating the thermocouple
properly, the system is operational and gas can then be allowed to pass through the main burner valve. If the pilot light gets turned off or blown out (or in some cases gets too hot),
then all valves are closed and no gas can pass through the system.
When the main burner is turned on, either by a remote controlled unit or by manually turning a knob, gas flows through the main valve and comes out the holes in the burner.
The flame from the safety pilot is positioned just above the first several holes in the main burner, so when gas flows out of the main burner and reaches the safety pilot, it automatically ignites.
So again, if the safety pilot is not lit (or for some reason the safety pilot gets blown out), the system automatically closes both valves so that no gas will
flow through either valve until the safety pilot is re-lit.
This prevents the system from allowing gas to flow freely into your home at any time in the event that the safety pilot blows out, or someone turns on the gas to your fireplace
without lighting it.
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Answers to Recent Questions Posted To This Page
- Posted: 2/2/2010 2:24:45 AM
Can you please tell me what the gap is suppose to be between the pilot and the thrermocuple? Also, is the pilot suppose to be positioned as in the above picture or pointingright at the tip of the thermocouple? Thank you in advance for your help and response.
Answer: The gap between the pilot hood and the thermocouple should be approximately 1/8" to 3/8", but that varies between brands and models. The position of the pilot hood should be roughly what you see in our sample, but again depends on the brand and model. Please refer to the owners manual for your particular brand and model for specific instructions regarding your safety pilot.
- Posted: 1/3/2010 12:46:54 AM
I am looking for an extention for the control knob for the Peterson SPK - 20 safety pilot assembly. As it is now, the knob is right there within a few inches of the fire, and it gets rather hot. If there is such a thing as an extention rod to bring the knob out and further away from the fire, then where do I find one ?
Thanks for any info you can give me.
Answer: We can order you a part that is made specifically for that purpose. Just give us a call.
- Posted: 1/2/2010 10:55:02 PM
my pilot does not go out but makes a noise like it is trying to go out but the logs stay lit
Answer: It sounds like your pilot may be slightly too high, which can cause the flame to lift off of the pilot flame hood, almost causing the pilot to appear or sound as though it might blow itself out. When your logs are in operation, if the pilot does lift off the flame hood, it will re-light itself from the flames coming up from the burner system. Because you have stated that the logs continue to operate, this is likely a non-issue...providing the pilot stays lit during non-operation as well. If the pilot is adjusted correctly during non-operation, but acts differently when the logs are turned on, it is likely the result of a poorly designed system that does not regulate the gas flow to the pilot light properly at all times. I have seen this with gas logs sold at some of the home centers. Some brands of gas logs simply are not as good as others and may act this way. Again, if everything seems to continue working when either on or off, I do not think you have anything to worry about. I suggest that you refer to your owners manual to find out how your pilot light should be set.
- Posted: 12/29/2009 1:01:44 PM
Who bought (or still makes) Glo-Fire logs? I need a propane milivolt pilot assembly for a vented log set with remote. Can you help me?
Answer: Unfortunately, GloFire went out of business a few years ago...and left with a somewhat tarnished reputation. I believe they are not operating under the brand name Bevengo, but you will not find a manufacturers website online at this time, and likely find very few legitimate fireplace dealers who are willing to carry their product.
If you already own a Glo Fire log set and it is one of their original Kiln Fire Ceramic logs (as opposed to their other refractory cement logs), the logs themselves are a fantastic product and I would recommend keeping them. However, I found their milivolt burner systems were not the best, so I would suggest replacing the burner system with one made by R. H. Peterson. Their remote pilots are far more reliable and will produce a better flame. Plus, if you ever do have a problem down the road, you will be dealing with a much more stable company.
I am quite familiar with the older Glo Fire gas logs, so if you email me a picture of yours, I can tell you if they are the real Kiln Fired Ceramic, or the refractory cement (gregt@hansenwholesale.com).
If you are interested in replacing your burner system, just give us a call and we will be happy to take care of your needs.
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