Why Do Ventless Logs Smell?
A discussion about the odor produced by burning vent free gas logs.
December 14, 2009
By: Greg Tillotson
Gas Log Expert & Webmaster for Hansen Wholesale
Similar Pages:
Gas Log FAQs page!
Vented vs VentFree Gas Logs
We have so many visitors reach our site that already
own ventless gas logs and are asking why they produce a smell, how to get rid of the smell or other similar questions.
Not only is this page meant to answer that question, but to provide valuable insight to those who are considering purchasing
vent free gas logs now or in the future.
Keep in mind that this discussion DOES NOT apply to Vented Gas Logs.
Vented gas logs are burned in wood burning fireplaces with the damper fully open, so the smell that is produced goes up the fllue. So unless you have a poorly drafting
fireplace, you will not have the odor problem described below if you install vented gas logs.
So...on with the details!
For the sake of this discussion, I will be referring to Natural Gas. Although Liquid Propane
and the additives used in its production have a different chemical makeup than Natural Gas, the basic premise below applies
to both gases.
Ventless logs do in fact produce an unmistakeable odor. There is no way of preventing this,
it is simply the nature of burning natural gas in your home without exhausting the fumes up a chimney.
In a perfect world, the natural byproduct of burning "pure" natural gas is water vapor and carbon dioxide,
and many people believe that burning natural gas in your home should produce no odor...so they think there is
something awry with their ventless logs when they produce a smell.
The chemical formula that describes the combustion of Methane Gas (natural gas in it's purest form) shows how
Methane gas is made up of Carbon and Hydrogen molecules. When burned, the Carbon combines with Oxygen
producing carbon dioxide and the Hydrogen combines with Oxygen to produce Water Vapor.
Both of which are odorless non-toxic gases. If the gas does not burn completely, then some of the carbon molecules remain as carbon (soot) and some of them
combine with a single oxygen molecule and produce Carbon Monoxide (which is still an odorless gas).
The final byproduct of the reaction is the production of heat (-890 kJ/mol). Here's the formula:
CH4(g) + 2O2(g) → CO2(g) + 2H2O(l) -890 kJ/mol
Side note: If you see soot accumulating on your logs, then you can assume that carbon monoxide is also being produced.
Unfortunately, we do not live in a perfect world and the natural gas that is supplied to your home is not perfect.
It contains small amounts of impurities and additives, one of which is the rotten egg smell which is added
so that you can smell a gas leak if it occurs (again, natural gas in its raw state is odorless). The most common rotten smelling additive is Methyl Mercaptan.
The byproduct of burning Mercaptan is Sulfur Dioxide, which smells more like burnt matches mixed with rotten eggs.
Mixed that with the smell of other impurities in the gas and you end up with the smell that ventless logs produce.
Furthermore, Sulfur dioxide is an irritant to the eyes and respiratory tract in a more concentrated amounts.
Although, gas suppliers claim that the amount of Mercaptan added to natural gas is so minute that it poses no health risk,
many people do experience discomfort when burning ventless logs...particularly eye irritation or coughing spells.
What can you do if you have vent free logs and simply cannot live with the odor?
- Do not burn your ventless gas logs...or
- Open the damper in your fireplace (if you have a fireplace with a chimney...and/or
- Open some windows (and let fresh cold air in while you are trying to warm your house)...and/or
- Replace your ventless log set with a vented one designed to be burned with the damper fully open.
Bottom Line: We highly
recommend that you purchase vented gas logs. You will be much happier with flame that they produce
and less likely to experience discomfort from odors or irritation.
We only recommend ventless logs when maximizing the heat output outweighs all of the other negative aspects.
Related Articles:
Have a Question About This Page? Ask an Expert!
We're Very Sorry!
Hampton Bay is a house brand for Home Depot. We do not have access to any of their parts or technical information. We DO NOT recommend or offer support for their products. Please contact Home Depot!
Read more about Hampton Bay here!.
We're Very Sorry!
Harbor Breeze is a house brand for Lowe's. We do not have access to any of their parts or technical information. We DO NOT recommend or offer support for their products. Please contact Lowe's!
Read more about Harbor Breeze here!.
Answers to Recent Questions Posted To This Page
- Posted: 1/24/2010 7:50:20 PM
Why do I hear the pilot light burning. At first I thought it was air from the chimney, then realized it was the pilot light making this noise
Answer: Cheaper brands sold at home centers and department stores tend to have this problem. Otherwise, it could be that your pilot is adjusted too high. What brand and model of gas logs do you own?
- Posted: 1/24/2010 7:48:19 PM
I had been told that we could not purchase a vented gas log set because our fireplace was not deep enough, yet when I go on your size it seems to accept the measurements, which are 19" wide by 14" deepl. Will the Peterson Charred Oak vented gas logs fit in this fireplace? Do you sell any other gas log set more realistic than the Charred oak?
Answer: If the width of 19" is in fact the width at the middle of your fireplace, then the answer is yes, we do have gas logs that will fit and there are 6 models to choose from. Which one is most attractive is somewhat of a subjective question, however...I personally prefer the Charred oak or Burn Rustic Oak since they have more hand detailing...which is why they are slightly more expensive.
Here is a link to view all 6 of the log sets: Gas Logs for Small Fireplaces
- Posted: 1/14/2010 6:39:47 PM
I have ventless gas logs in a fireplace the logs will just stop burning sometimes after about an hour sometimes when the logs are not burning the piolt light will go out I have plenty of gas in the tank I have only had them for about 2 years this just started recently Thanks
Answer: We do not offer trouble shooting for gas log systems unless they were purchased from us. With that said, there are any number of things that will cause your ventless logs to shut off. Could be a faulty valve or thermocouple. Pilot light could need to be adjusted. Burner ports may be clogged. ODS system may be being triggered. Sounds like you need a professional to service them. If you have not had your gas logs serviced since they were installed, then you need to have that done ASAP. If your logs are producing soot, then do not use them until they have been serviced.
If you do not know who to call for service, try the resources at the National Fireplace Institute to find a qualified professional in your area : National Fireplace Institute.
What brand and model are your logs and where did you purchase them?
- Posted: 1/9/2010 4:28:12 PM
My ventless logs produce a lot of soot that discolors the outside of the fireplace and mantle.Is this dangerous?can it be corrected?
Answer: When a ventless gas log begins producing soot, that also means that it is producing Carbon Monoxide. When gas burns completely, the byproducts are Water Vapor and Carbon Dioxide. When the gas does not burn completely, the byproducts are Water Vapor, Carbon Dioxide, Carbon (which is soot) and Carbon Monoxide (which is a poisonous odorless gas). So if your vent free gas logs are producing soot, do not use them. Have them serviced or replaced.
Regarding your mantel. Discoloration of your mantel may also be caused by overheating, which can actually create a fire hazard. If you have a mantel that projects beyond the plane of the fireplace opening, it is critical that the clearances to the mantel from the opening are met, or that an appropriate hood is installed above the fireplace opening that diverts the heat away from the mantel. This is often overlooked when consumers install ventless gas logs themselves rather than having them installed by a professional. Please refer to your installation manual and read the details about mantel clearances and hood requirements.
Read all Questions & Answers >>
THE END