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Gas Log Questions and Answers
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| City | Ave. Cost of Natural Gas per Therm (100,000 BTUs) | Ave. Hourly Cost of Burning Gas Logs | Average Cost of Wood per Hour | Average Savings when Burning Peterson Gas Logs |
| Birmingham, AL | $1.84 | $1.29 | $1.94 | 34% |
| Chicago, Il | $1.2 | $0.84 | $2.64 | 68% |
| Dallas, TX | $1.40 | $0.95 | $1.54 | 36% |
| Denver, CO | $0.98 | $0.69 | $1.17 | 41% |
| Houston, TX | $1.33 | $0.93 | $1.28 | 27% |
| Kansas City, MO | $0.92 | $0.64 | $1.29 | 51% |
| Los Angeles, CA | $1.39 | $0.97 | $1.34 | 28% |
| Las Vegas, NV | $0.75 | $0.53 | $1.24 | 57% |
| Minneapolis, MN | $1.22 | $0.85 | $1.29 | 34% |
| Nashville, TN | $1.47 | $1.03 | $1.37 | 25% |
| Philadelphia, PA | $1.40 | $0.98 | $1.29 | 24% |
| Phoenix, AZ | $1.09 | $0.76 | $1.63 | 53% |
| San Francisco, CA | $1.79 | $1.25 | $2.28 | 45% |
| Salt Lake City, UT | $1.28 | $0.90 | $1.45 | 38% |
| Seattle, WA | $1.12 | $0.78 | $1.48 | 47% |
Other reasons to choose R. H. Peterson
Gas Logs: These are just a handful of
reasons why it makes more sense - and costs fewer cents - to burn Real-Fyre Gas Logs from RH Peterson Company! Back to Top... Believe it or not...gas logs, are not safe to install in gas fireplaces (with few exceptions). Sounds odd, but it's quite true. Gas logs are actually made to be installed in wood burning fireplaces as a way of converting them to gas. They are not made to "spruce up" a poorly designed gas fireplace like those you see in many condos and apartments...and yes, maybe even in your home. Bottom line is, if you install a gas log in a gas fireplace that was not designed to accommodate them, you might end up asphyxiating yourself or burning your house down. So before you buy gas logs, you must know what type of fireplace you have...and if it is safe to burn gas logs in it. The information on this page will help you do just that. VENTED GAS LOGS: Vented gas logs can be installed in any fireplace that is fully capable of burning wood. Vented gas logs must be burned with the damper open (or partially opened depending on how well the fireplace drafts). Vented gas logs can also be installed in outdoor fireplaces and fire pits that meet local building codes. You CANNOT install vented gas logs in any gas fireplace or gas stove or ventless firebox. VENTLESS GAS LOGS: Ventless gas logs can be installed in any fireplace that is fully capable of burning wood and are burned with the damper closed. Ventless logs can also be installed in some approved ventless fireboxes, providing the firebox is specifically rated for the use of aftermarket ventless logs and not a specific proprietary ventless log supplied by the fireplace manufacturer. A ventless fireplace has no chimney or damper. You CANNOT install ventless gas log in any other type of gas fireplace or gas stove.
Important Note: Ventless gas logs are NOT legal in some states, cities or municipalities. You must check with your local building department to see if they are legal in your area. Ventless gas logs are not legal throughout the entire state of California! You need to know if you have a wood buring or gas burning fireplace. If it is a wood burning fireplace, then you can probably install gas logs in it. If it is not a wood burning fireplace, then you most likely CANNOT install gas logs in it (except for a few Ventless fireboxes as described below). If you do not know if you have a wood burning fireplace or not, the information on this page will help you make that determination, but first, look inside your fireplace to see if there are any metal parts aside from the damper. If there are, then it is probably some type of prefabricated fireplace. If that is the case, there should be a metal label with the brand name and model number located somewhere inside the fireplace. That label might also have some stipulations as to what you can burn in it. The label is usually somewhere near the opening, either on the sides (sometimes hidden by a mesh curtain) or on the upper front area just inside the opening. If you can find the label, try to Google the information on it to learn more about your fireplace. Often times you can find the owners manual online in a downloadable .pdf file. If you are still having difficulty determing what type of fireplace you have, just call us and we will help you figure it out. You can also take pictures of your fireplace and email them directly to me (the webmaster) at: gregt@hansenwholesale.com A typical masonry fireplace will have a firebox and chimney that is built from some type of masonry.
For sake of discussion, a "Tilt-up" fireplace that is made completely out of concrete would be considered equivalent to masonry fireplace.
Although the chimney outside the house may be covered with stucco, stone, or any other building material, the actual inside if the chimney on a masonry fireplace is often lined with an oval shaped clay flue liner, although some older homes do not have this. The flue inside the chimney of a masonry fireplace is usually rectangular or oval in shape and is normall 8" x 14" or larger (sometimes much larger). It is rare that a masonry fireplace has a flue that is smaller than this, so if your flue is smaller, then you may not have a masonry fireplace. If your damper is a wide rectangular piece that opens and closes with a lever
and your fireplace is capable of burning wood, then you have a masonry
woodburning fireplace and it will be capable of burning vented or ventless gas
logs. Always have your chimney inspected before burning wood in your fireplace or installing a gas log.
If you have been told that there are cracks in your chimney and it is not safe to burn wood, then you cannot safely burn a vented gas log either because the exhaust may come into your home.
In such cases, it may still be safe to burn a ventless gas log, but you must consult with a professional who is capable of inspecting your firebox and making the final determination. A Prefabricated (or zero clearance) wood burning fireplace is a metal box that is lined with
refractory panels and has a round metal chimney anywhere from 8" to
15" in diameter. The metal box and pipe are built-in to the home with 2x4
construction and the chimney outside the house is usually covered with stucco, siding, or sometimes brick veneer or stone. If you have a round damper that is 8" in
diameter or larger and your fireplace is capable of burning wood, then you have
a prefabricated woodburning fireplace. This type of fireplace that can certainly accommodate a vented gas log and is burned with the damper open.
You may also be able to install a ventless gas log into a prefabricated fireplace depending on the manufacturer and model fireplace you have.
You must check with the owners manual to determine if ventless gas logs are allowed in your fireplace model.
If the owners manual does not specifically state that you can install ventless gas logs, then you cannot
There may also be limitations to the BTUs or the size of the ventless logs that the fireplace can accommodate, so be sure to check for that as well! If you are still having difficulty determing what type of fireplace you have, just call us and we will help you figure it out. You can also take pictures of your fireplace and email them directly to me (the webmaster) at: gregt@hansenwholesale.com Ventless (or Vent Free) fireplaces are
similar to prefabricated wood burning fireplaces in that they are a metal box that is framed into your house with 2x4s.
The big difference is that there is no chimney at all. Most ventless fireplaces come with a factory installed gas log and burner
system and you cannot change it without causing serious safety issues. However, there are some ventless fireboxes that
are specifically designed to accommodate an aftermarket ventless gas log of any brand. If you have the latter type, then you can use any
of the ventless logs on our site, but you must be sure to consult the owners manual of the fireplace
to find out what the size and BTU limitations are because there usually are such stipulations set by the factory and exceeding them
can create a potential fire hazard. You cannot install vented gas logs in a ventless fireplace under any circumstances. If you are still having difficulty determing what type of fireplace you have, just call us and we will help you figure it out. You can also take pictures of your fireplace and email them directly to me (the webmaster) at: gregt@hansenwholesale.com B-Vent (or Natural Vent) Gas Fireplaces are built-in to
your home just like a prefabricated wood burning fireplace. Many people mistake a vented gas fireplace for a wood buring fireplace,
so it is very important that you double check to make sure you know what type of fireplace you have.
The first clue that a fireplace is a B-Vent fireplace is the diameter of the flue.
If the flue exits from the top of the firelpace and is less than 8" in diameter, then it is either a B-Vent or Direct Vent gas fireplace.
In either case, they are dealt with the same way (see direct vent fireplaces below).
A few gas fireplaces will in fact have an 8" diameter flue, which happens to be the same diameter as the smallest flue used in some wood buring prefab fireplaces.
So you if this is the case be sure to check the owners manual if you are not sure if it is a wood or gas only fireplace. B-Vent cannot handle the heat produced by burning real wood or gas logs nor is it capable of axhausting all the fumes.
B-Vent gas fireplaces will come with factory installed gas logs that cannot be modified or changed in any way. If you do not
like the way your gas fireplace burns, you will need to replace the entire
fireplace. Important Note: You cannot install any of the gas
logs on our web site in this type of gas fireplace. Doing so creates an xtreme safety hazard and can burn your house down! If you are still having difficulty determing what type of fireplace you have, just call us and we will help you figure it out. You can also take pictures of your fireplace and email them directly to me (the webmaster) at: gregt@hansenwholesale.com Direct Vent Gas Fireplaces are
somewhat similar to B-Vent gas fireplaces except that the flue may be vented directly out
the back and they have a sealed combustion chamber with a glass front that does not open.
All direct vent gas fireplaces will come with factory installed gas
logs that cannot be modified or changed in any way. If you do not like the way
your direct vent gas fireplace burns, you will either need to replace the entire fireplace
or contact the manufacturer to see if they have any available options for the
logs.
Important Note:
You cannot install any of the gas logs on our web
site in this type of vented gas fireplace. Doing so creates an extreme safety
hazard. If you are still having difficulty determing what type of fireplace you have, just call us and we will help you figure it out. You can also take pictures of your fireplace and email them directly to me (the webmaster) at: gregt@hansenwholesale.com as logs cannot be installed in wood burning stoves or gas burning stoves.
Wood stoves are designed to use far less air than wood burning fireplaces, so in most cases they have a 6" diameter
vent that is not enough to properly exhaust the fumes given off by gas logs. Wood stoves generally tend to get
hotter inside (because that is what they are designed to do) so the heat build-up can destroy the safety pilot
assembly of a gas log. Wood stoves are also not tested and UL listed for use with gas logs, so not only
will adding a gas log void the warranty of your stove (and gas log), if by chance the gas logs cause
a fire and your home is damaged, it is possible that you will not be awared any adjustment from your insurance company.
Gas stoves are just like gas fireplaces in that they are designed only to accommodate the gas log
and burner system that they come with from the factory. The venting systems are not designed to
handle the heat of a gas log and cannot exhaust the fumes properly. Using any other gas log in a gas stove than
the ones that came with it can create a fire hazard or potential explosion.
Important Note:
Bottom line for wood and gas stoves is...you cannot install gas logs in them unless the manufacturer
offers such an option, in which case you can only use those made specifically for your particular stove. More details This information was copied over from another location on our website, so although it repeats much of what is said above, there are some other tidbits here that may help you if you are still
unclear about anything above. VENTED gas logs can ONLY be installed in a fireplace that is fully capable of burning wood. That means that the chimney must be in good condition. So if you want to burn gas logs because you had you chimney inspected and were told it was not safe to burn wood because it leaks or something, then it is not safe to burn gas logs either. Ventless gas logs can only be installed in wood burning fireplace OR a factory built ventless firebox that is rated for use with aftermarket ventless logs. Every ventless firebox has LIMITATIONS to how many BTUs are allowed and how large a log set it can accommodate. If you have a factory built ventless firebox, you MUST refer to the installation manual to get this information before you can know what will work. VENTED gas logs flat-out CANNOT be installed in any Gas only fireplace. Although this sounds strange, gas fireplaces are designed to accommodate ONLY the log and burner combinations designed specifically for the particular appliance. Vented gas logs produce far more exhaust and require more draft than a gas only fireplace is designed to accommodate. They also may produce more heat than the venting system is rated for. Vented gas logs are NOT rated to be used with B-Vent period! VENTED and VENTLESS gas logs CANNOT be installed in any Direct Vent gas fireplace. Direct vent fireplaces are the ones that have a sealed glass front. These are even more finely tuned to work only with the logs that they come with and it is quite dangerous to install anything in them other than what the manufacturer supplied with the unit. Neither vented or ventless gas logs can be installed in any Wood Stove! Most wood stoves do NOT have a large enough diameter chimney to create a proper draft for a gas log. Wood stoves operate at a very low draft, which is what makes them desirable and efficient. Also, most wood stoves made in the last 20 years are not designed to be burned with the doors open, so gas logs are not appropriate just for that reason alone. Also, wood stoves are designed to capture more heat inside the burning chamber, so a gas log set would OVERHEAT inside a wood stove. Those who believe that a ventless
gas log can work in a wood stove would be incorrect because of this factor alone. It is also rare that you can find a gas log small enough to fit properly into a wood stove. Regardless, you cannot install a gas log in any wood burning stove. Free standing wood burning fireplaces, most commonly manufacturered by Malm, are treated just like a regular wood burning fireplace, so it is OK to install either vented or ventless gas logs in them if the fireplace and chimney is still in a condition that it is capable of burning wood. Back to Top... Vented Gas Logs Require a Fully Functional Wood Burning Fireplace,
Ventless (or Vent Free) Gas Logs can be installed in either a wood burning
fireplace, or a ventless fireplace that is rated for aftermarket ventless logs.
Ventless gas logs will produce more heat, while vented gas logs will look much
more realistic. Read the Pros and Cons of each below:
What type of fireplace is required for me to install my gas logs?
How do I know what type of fireplace I have and is it safe to burn gas logs in it?
Masonry Fireplaces:
OK for Vented Gas Logs
OK for Ventless Gas Logs
Prefabricated Woodburing Fireplaces:
OK for Vented Gas Logs
*Maybe OK for Ventless Gas Logs
Ventless Fireplaces and Fireboxes:
NOT for Vented Gas Logs
*Maybe OK for Ventless Gas Logs
B-Vent Gas Fireplaces:
NOT for Vented Gas Logs
NOT for Ventless Gas Logs
Direct Vent Gas Fireplaces:
NOT for Vented Gas Logs
NOT for Ventless Gas Logs
Wood and Gas Stoves:
NOT for Vented Gas Logs
NOT for Ventless Gas Logs
Vented - VS Ventless...which one is better?
Basic Overview
Vented Gas Logs:
"Fully Vented" gas logs and must be
burned in a fireplace that is capable of burning real wood and must be burned
with the damper open. The reason for this is that they do not burn the gas
cleanly and create exhaust that is very similar to burning a real wood fire.
This exhaust needs to be able to go up the chimney. The real beauty of vented
gas logs is that they produce substantially more yellow flame than ventless logs
which makes them look far more realistic. The downside is that most of the heat
goes right up the chimney.
However, In most cases, you can offset this heat loss by slightly closing the damper...but you must be careful that the exhaust from your logs is not coming into the room because, just like burning real wood, it contains Carbon Monoxide. A good way to test this is to turn on your gas logs with the damper slightly closed. Hold a lighter or candle in front of the fireplace opening near the top. If the flame from the lighter (candle) is being drawn in toward the fireplace, then you are OK. If the flame is standing still or pushed out toward the room, then your fireplace is not drafting enough and you must open the damper more.
Positive Features of Vented Gas Logs:
Negative Features of Vented Gas Logs:
Do's and Dont's for Vented Gas Logs
(Additional information you should read before buying Ventless Gas Logs)
Check out some Vented Gas Log Installation Manuals Here before you purchase.
The beauty of this type of system is that 99.9% of the heat produced by the gas logs goes into the room, so they produce substantially more heat than their vented counter-parts. However, there are many negative features commonly associated with ventless logs that you must be aware of before you decide to purchase them:
Positive Features of Ventless Gas Logs:
Negative Features of Ventless Gas Logs:
Do's and Dont's for Ventless Gas Logs
(Additional information you should read before buying Ventless Gas Logs)
Bottom Line: We highly recommend that you purchase vented gas logs. You will be much happier with flame that they produce and less likely to experience discomfort from odors or irritation. We only recommend ventless logs when maximizing the heat output outweighs all of the other negative aspects.
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We Find The Correct Size For You: We have designed this web site in a way that ensures you end up with the correct size gas logs based on the dimensions of your fireplace and the type of burner system that you select. We do this by performing complex calculations which compare your dimensions to over 4700 possible gas log configurations and finding those that fit properly. No other web site can currently perform these calculations...so they take a chance that you will order the wrong size. Read about How To Measure further below.
Calculation Examples: For a Fireplace that measures 42" x 28" x 20". Figure 1A uses a gas log with an adjustable flame remote control valve, while Figure 1B uses a gas log with No Safety Pilot.
Figure 1A
Gas Logs with Variable Flame Remote Pilot
Recommended Size = 16"
How the calculation is performed for Figure 1A:
Our site first calculates the width of your fireplace measured 7" back from
the front of the opening. This is the approximate location that the burner
system shown in the picture will be installed for the largest size gas logs that
will fit. We then find the required clearance for the pilot system that you
select, which is 2.5" in the example below. Next, we find the additional
width added on by the safety pilot. We then calculate D by adding A and B. Now
if you take the required clearance plus the pilot size and then doubling it, you
can subtract that number from the Center Width to determine the maximum size
burner that will fit in the remaining space. In this case, the largest burner
that will fit could be only 16" wide. And since we have logs and burners
that are available 16" wide, this would be the largest recommended size.
Although these logs may appear small in this fireplace, this is the largest size
that will offer you the added safety and convenience of this burner system.
Figure 1B
Gas Logs with No Safety Pilot
Recommended Size = 30"
How the calculation is performed for Figure 1B:
Figure 1B below shows the same fireplace with a
standard burner that has No Safety Pilot. Since there is no pilot that requires
air space, we just need to find the largest size logs that will fit the space
comfortably. In this case the Recommended size will end up being much larger
than the first example and will ultimately look better, but won't have the added
benefits of the remote control safety pilot. When we do this calculation, we
allow only 1" on each side of the logs then find the remaining available
space. By deducting 2" from the Calculated Center Width, we would have
35" left for the logs and burner. We then find the closest available size
that is less than or equal to 35"...which in this case is 30". So we
arrive at a recommended size of 30" for this type of application...Although
36" logs are in fact available and could possibly be installed, they would
over-crowd the fireplace and would not look as good as the 30" Model.
Conclusion: We have
illustrated the above examples so that you can see there is no simple way to
determine just what size gas logs you need. You must perform these calculations
to take the risk out of your purchase. We do not recommend purchasing gas logs
from any dealer who does not take the above parameters into consideration. You
will find that most manufacturers do not cover problems under warranty if their
products are not installed per the parameters laid out in their installation
manual.
For a more graphical explaination of the required clearances, please click on the image below which is provided by the manufacturer.
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Measuring is very simple...basically we just need the Front Width, Back Width, and Depth of the fireplace floor. Measure only the useable space. We say this because some Prefabricated or Metal Fireplaces have an area where the mesh curtain hangs that is several inches wider than the actual useable floor space inside (See Figure 2B). Also, if you have a mesh curtain or glass doors, be sure to measure the depth from behind either of these, since this is the useable space for the logs. Otherwise, you may end up with logs that hamper the opening and closing of your screen.
Figure 2A and Figure 2B show examples of how to measure for gas logs.
How to Measure a Masonry Fireplace
You're even better off if you measure
just the floor of the
firelace!
Figure 2A
How to Measure a Prefab or Metal Fireplace
A lot of fireplaces are like this,
so make sure you notice if
yours is too.
Figure 2B
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Our Gas logs fall under 3 different classes: Non-Certified (No Approval Rating), RADCO approved, and ANSI Certified. Some states require a certification for gas logs and others don't. Be sure to check with your local building department if you are unsure about the requirements for your municipality. If you receive your gas logs and subsequently find that they are not legal in your city, you may not be able to ship them back once they have been installed.
Non-Certified: Non-Certified logs are generally very large and use too many BTU's to pass any type of certification. However, they are still considered safe and legal in many cities and states. If you have a large fireplace (say over 45" wide), you will have a hard time finding "Certified" gas logs big enough to fit nicely, so we have a great selection of Uncertified gas logs for you to consider. Our Non-Certified logs are available in sizes up to 60"!
RADCO: RADCO is a commonly accepted certification that imposes some restrictions yet is widely accepted in many states including California. Most of the gas logs on our site that are under 90,000 BTUs will be available in RADCO approved versions. RADCO approved logs are available in sizes up to 30".
ANSI: ANSI (American National Standards Institute) is the most widely accepted certification for gas logs. ANSI certification has very strict qualifications and in most cases requires that the gas logs have a safety pilot that has been factory installed and tested. There are also limitations to the BTU input as well as the actual placement of the logs on the grate. Many states require ANSI approval, so you will be happy to find that we have over 1,000 ANSI approved log and burner combinations for you to choose from in sizes up to 36".
California: California accepts both RADCO and ANSI approved logs but does not allow ventless gas logs of any type.
New York and Massachusetts: Most cities in New York and Massachusetts require all gas logs to be ANSI approved.
Other States: Almost all other states accept the ANSI approved logs...and many states will accept RADCO approval while others do not require any certification. Again, be sure to consult with your local building department before purchasing gas logs from any dealer.
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Most importantly...Liquid Propane always requires a safety pilot, whereas Natural Gas does not. The reasons are explained in more detail below.
Natural Gas: Since Natural Gas is lighter than air, it can be used without a safety pilot in many cities, providing the damper is permanently propped open. Propping the damper open will prevent allow the gas to escape up the flue in the event that someone turns on the gas without lighting the logs. Natural gas is typically used in homes where Natural Gas is already plumbed throughout the home. If you have Natural Gas in your home, but do not have it plumbed to your fireplace, be sure to have this done by a certified plumber. The plumber needs to know the BTU input of the gas logs that you purchase so that the correct diameter line can be run from the gas main or other connection. Also, if you already have natural gas plumbed to the fireplace, the amount of BTU's that the line can handle may be less than the logs consume...which may result in lower than expected performance.
Liquid Propane: Since Liquid Propane gas is heavier than air, all gas log systems that use Liquid Propane are required to have a safety pilot. This prevents the gas from puddling in the home in the event that someone turns on the gas line without igniting the fire. Liquid Propane is commonly used in areas where Natural Gas is not available to the home. If you do not already have gas plumbed to your fireplace, then you will want to have a certified plumber or Liquid Propane expert install the gas line. Make sure that this is done to code for your area.Be sure to consult with your local building department if you are not sure of any requirements before purchasing gas logs from any dealer.
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Fireplaces where the logs cannot be seen from the back side. This includes your typical fireplace as well as an "L-Shaped" fireplaces that are open on the front as well as the left or right side....and...3 sided bay style fireplaces that have 2 short sides and 1 long side. Standard gas logs have a single burner that causes the flame to come up only in the front and middle. The rear bottom log is smaller than the front bottom log and the grate is also narrower in the back. They are made this way because most standard fireplaces get narrower toward the back.
 Single Sided |
 L-Shaped |
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 3 Sided Bay |
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Fireplaces where the logs can be seen from both front and back. A true see thru fireplace is open between 2 rooms. However, any fireplace where the logs can be seen from both front and back would use a see thru gas logs. A 3 sided peninsula style fireplace that has 2 long sides and 1 short side would use a see thru gas log. See thru gas logs will have a special burner that causes the flame to come from the front, back, and middle of the logs. The logs and grate are also the same width in both front and back.
 See Thru |
 3 Sided Peninsula |
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In the past, there was no difference between outdoor gas logs and those used indoors. However, things have changed now with the introduction of the Stainless Steel Outdoor Gas Log burner systems that R. H. Peterson developed specifically for use in outdoor fireplaces. Until now, gas logs would last a couple years exposed to the elements before the burner system would begin to rust and stop working. Now, with the new Peterson Stainless Steel outdoor burners, you can enjoy your logs for a lifetime, which makes Peterson the best gas log on the market for your outdoor fireplace.
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Important Note: Liquid Propane always requires a safety pilot, whereas Natural Gas does not. The reasons are explained in more detail below.
Match Light: Match light systems do not have any type of safety pilot. You start the fire by lighting a long lighter or match and holding it inside the fireplace just above the burner while you turn on the gas. The gas valve should be located either in the wall or floor. If your gas valve is inside the fireplace, be sure that it is legally installed. Most cities require that you at least have a cut off valve outside the fireplace that is in reach. Match light burners are substantially less expensive than other options, but are not legal in many cities.
Manual Safety Pilots: Manually controlled gas logs have a safety pilot that stays lit all of the time (it can be turned off during the off-season). The safety pilot attached to the burner will have a knob that you turn to light the fire. This knob works as long as the safety pilot is lit. You cannot use a remote control with a manual safety pilot. Manual safety pilots are less expensive than remote control pilots because they use a less sophisticated system. This is also the least expensive way to operate gas logs with Liquid Propane.
Remote Safety Pilots: A remote capable safety pilot operates like a manual safety pilot with a knob or switch to turn on the fire. However, you can also purchase a separate remote control or wall control to turn the logs on as well. In most cases the remote control is sold separately. Some remote capable controls only turn the fire on and off while others can adjust the flame height as well. The variable flame remote controls are more expensive.
Electronic Ignition Remote Systems: Electronic ignition systems are the latest technology. These types of
systems turn the gas on and off electronically and do not have a standing safety
pilot. There is no wasted gas or noise from a gas pilot when the logs are not
burning. This is the most expensive type of system, but the most desired.
Back to Top... The material that your logs are made of can make a
tremendous difference in the amount of heat that they produce, how much they
glow, and how long they last. In our opinion, refractory ceramic logs are the
best. Read more below to compare the differences and decide what's best for
you. Refractory Ceramic: Refractory
ceramic has a greater heat radiating capability and will last for many years.
Refractory ceramic is a mixture of powdered ceramic and cement. This mixture is
poured into a rubber mold and then left to dry for a day or so. Once the logs
are dry, they are colored with a special heat resistant paint. Some logs have
more hand painted details than other...and will look more realistic and cost
more. On our web site, these are generally referred to as "Designer"
logs. The key manufacture of high grade Refractory Ceramic logs is
R. H. Peterson. Their molds produce the most realistic bark and wood
details...and with their hand painted details, you will find a much larger
variety of woods with very realistic appearances. Refractory Cement: Refractory
Cement logs are generally the least expensive logs and are sold at mass
merchants, discount stores, home centers, discount websites and the like. They
are made using a heat resistant grade of cement...similar to what a mason would
use for the mortar when building the inside of a fireplace. This material does
not radiate very much heat. Logs like this may look realistic when they
are new and painted, but they tend to crack and crumble after a short period of
time...sometimes after the first use. We do not recommend or sell any logs that
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I need 30" fireplace logs but want some with a great flame. I have logs but flame is very small,what set do you recommend that looks like a blazing fire?
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We moved to a house in the ATL area w/Marco model 7928626 (solid wood fuel only). Dimensions are 30" Front X 15" Depth X 25" Rear width. Gas logs were already installed. We get major soot when lighting so we called out a local sweep. The sweep cleaned/inspected the chimney and quoted new charred oak logs for $821 (not sure if incl burner). Reading your site it looks like our soot problem may be related to having a gas starter which he never mentioned. What kind of setup can we get?
http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/why-ventless-gaslogs-smell.asp
My Peterson gas logs are about 4 yrs old. The remote worked fine for two years but now does not. What could the problem be? Could it be the battery and can that be replaced?
http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/how-safety-pilot-works.asp
I have a gas fireplace with on pilot valve is this legle in California or should I install a pilot failsafe valve? THE END
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Answer: We do not sell or support direct vent fireplaces. I would suggest that you Google the make and model of your fireplace to see if you can come up with an owners manual so you can learn how it operates. If you use the advanced search feature for Google you can select to search only for .pdf files, which will make it much easier to refine your search.
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Answer: Gas logs should NOT smoke up a room, so if that is what is happening with your gas log set, then something is definitely wrong. If you are burning the logs with your damper closed, that would explain it. But I assume that you are not doing that. It is possible that something is blocking your chimney, so you may need to have a chimney sweep come take a look. Some fireplaces are poorly designed and simply do not create enough draft, so both gas logs and real wood will smoke up the house. If your house is tightly sealed, your fireplace may not be able to create a draft, in which case you will need to open a window. It could be the gas log set you own is poorly made or installed incorrectly.
If you email me some pictures of your fireplace and gas logs, I may be able to give you more direct input. Email your pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.comGas Logs Question
Answer: You do not have to have a damper to use vented gas logs since they are supposed to be burned with the damper open anyways. But, you must have a chimney. So, when you say you do not have a damper, do you actually have a chimney that vents the fireplace to above the roof line, or is it sealed off at the top inside your fireplace where the damper should be? If you email me some pictures of your fireplace so I can see what is inside...including how it looks at the top inside the opening, I may be able to offer you more information. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com
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Answer: Ventless gas logs are not supposed to be burned for more than 6 continuous hours per day or more than a total of 40 hours per week. The owners manual on every ventless gas log will state this quite clearly. This is a national building code standard for your safety. The reason is that they produce a lot of water vapor, which can certainly lead to the production of mold and mildew if they are over-used. They also deplete the oxygen in the air and replace it with carbon dioxide, which is not healthy. They should NEVER be operated when you are sleeping or not in the room for extended periods of time.
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PL-CHFRG10-30-15P - http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/model.asp?SetModel=PL-CHFRG10-30-15P
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Answer: Very little can be done to increase the heat output of an existing gas log, so you are most likely going to have to replace it with one designed for heat. Since you apparently are not getting much heat from your gas logs right now I assume you have a vented gas log set that must be burned with the damper open, so the heat goes up the chimney. If you really want heat, you need to replace the entire burner and log setup with a new Ventless gas log that can be burned with the damper closed. Ventless gas logs are not for everybody because they produce an odor that some people just do not like. My suggestion would be to read this article: Vented -vs- Ventless Gas Logs. I would also suggest that you email me some pictures of your fireplace and gas logs so I can see what you have as well as what could potentially be installed. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com and include your fireplace measurements (front width, front height, depth, rear width).
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Answer: Without knowing how much flame you are getting right now it is difficult to compare to what you might expect to get from the best logs on the market today. Can you possibly take some pictures of your gas logs both on and off so I can see what we are up against?
I will say that often times people buy logs that are simply too large for the fireplace. The larger the log set, the lower the flame is...which is just the nature of the beast. The reason being that there are building code restrictions on the amount of gas a burner can use, so the wider the burner is, the less height the flame can be. You might find that switching to a 24" gas log will produce the flame you desire without compromising the appearance in your fireplace. There are some 24" sets that are rather massive and may look better proportioned in your fireplace than the 30" set you have.
So if you can email me some pictures, I will be able to give you more pertinent advice. I would also like the following measurements of your fireplace:
Front Opening Width:
Front Opening Height:
Back Width:
Depth front to back:
Email pictures and info to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com
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Answer: Can you email me some pictures of your fireplace? Show me the entire fireplace as well as some shots of what you have inside. I'm sure I will be able to give you a second opinion as well as save you some money on the log set. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com
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Answer: It is most likely the batteries. There is a battery in both the transmitter and the receiver. You should be able to find the battery easily. Replace both batteries, and if it does not solve your problem then email me directly and I'll help you get in touch with someone who can troubleshoot your burner.
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Answer: Can you please restate your question...it does not make sense to me. Also, can you email me a picture of your fireplace and gas logs? That might help explain what you are trying to ask. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com
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