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I Want To Buy "Logs Only"...
I already have a burner system!

If this is you...please read this page!

We do in fact sell "Logs Only", but there are cases where changing the logs in a fireplace can cause a hazardous situation, or where the burner system that you have in place simply will not work well with fake logs. So before you purchase a set of logs without a burner, we ask that you read the information below. Then give us a call to discuss your needs and we will gladly sell them to you at our "Guaranteed Lowest Prices" if in fact they are appropriate for your application.




Above: Wood burning fireplace with ordinary pipe log lighter.
(Used to start wood...not appropriate for gas logs)

There are 2 common reasons people wish to purchase logs without a burner that can create potential problems:

Reason 1: They have a "Log Lighter" in their fireplace and wish to put fake logs on top of it.

Reason 2: They have a "Gas Only" fireplace and do not like the way the logs that came with it look, or wish to replace broken logs.

If you fit into either of these 2 categories, then it is very important that you read the rest of this information before you Buy Gas Logs Without a Burner!

Log Lighters

If you already have a burner in your fireplace, make sure that it is a "Gas Log Burner" and not a "Log Lighter". The picture to the right shows several different "Log Lighters" as well as a typical "Gas Log Burner". Log Lighters are designed to burn gas in order to start a real wood fire without using kindling. Although you can in fact use a log lighter to burn your gas logs, we do not recommend it for the following reasons:

Sooting: Because the air to fuel mixture is not controlled properly with a log lighter (unless there is an air mixer), they tend to produce a lot of soot. This will blacken your logs far more than a burner specifically designed for gas logs. In some cases, "Black Soot" will accumulate almost immediately on your gas logs and cover the bark and wood details in a matter of minutes. In some cases, the soot is so bad that it gets into the room...on the walls and on your furniture.

Unlrealistic Flame: A log lighter is not designed to emulate the look of a real wood fire. The flames come up looking more like fingers of fire rather than a natural looking flame.

No Glowing Ember Bed: A log lighter will not produce the glowing bed of embers below your gas logs like you see in the pictures of our gas logs. Gas Log Burners are designed to be burried beneath sand or vermiculite and then covered with the ember material. The gas must come up through the sand, which helps control the air to fuel mixture and reducing sooting. It also causes the ember material to glow red hot. The ember material is typically made of "Rock Wool" which is a high temperature insullation material, so it does not burn, it just gets red hot.

No Safety Pilot or Controls:With a burner designed specifically for gas logs, you can choose from several Remote Control or Manually Operated Safety Pilot Systems that will prevent the logs from leaking gas into your home in the event that a small child (or adult) turns on the gas without lighting the logs. You will not have such options if you use a "Log Lighter".

Gas Fireplaces

Warning: If you have a Gas Fireplace, you most likely "CANNOT" replace your logs with "DIFFERENT" logs!

The picture to the left shows a typical "Built-in Gas Fireplace" with the control access panel opened. These types of fireplaces usually have a burner system that is built-in to the bottom of the fireplace and the controls are accessed by pulling down the bottom grill.

If you are trying to replace the logs in such a fireplace, you most likely need to locate the logs made by the manufacturer of the fireplace for that "Exact" model...you should not use any other logs unless otherwise stated in the owners manual for the fireplace. If you cannot locate your owners manual, Google it online, or contact the manufacturer. If the manufacturer is out of business, then you are most likely stuck with what you have, or you will need to replace the entire fireplace (and possibly the venting as well) if you want new or different logs.

Why? Gas fireplaces are designed to be burned in a very controlled manner, and each model is different depending on how they were designed. Using logs other than those supplied with the fireplace can cause it to overheat or burn uncleanly...resulting in the production of soot and other potentially toxic byproducts such as Carbon Monoxide. This can create a very unsafe condition.

If you questions about any of this, please call and talk to our gas log experts!

Call: 1-800-201-1193


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  1. Question #9479 - Posted: 4/8/2014 1:36:59 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/vented/model.asp?StyleCode=RDP&FPType=Standard&GasType=NG&Na...

    QUESTION: I am looking for Peterson Model # SDPG46-18-17, but I do not see it on your web site. Do you carry it?

    ANSWER: Yes, we do carry it. Here is a link: Peterson SDPG46-18-17 Split Oak Designer Plus

  2. Question #9475 - Posted: 4/8/2014 1:29:42 AM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: On a RH Peterson burner, what is the difference, or pros and cons from a G45A Burner and a G45 Triple T Burner? Is it just the certification or is there a performance difference as well?

    ANSWER: The G45A has a manual safety pilot that is factory installed and tested to meet ANSI approval. The G45 is a match-light burner with no safety pilot. If you purchase a G45 and add a safety pilot it will not be installed and tested at the factory. Otherwise, both burners are identical and both are Triple T. Many cities and states require ANSI approval, so if in doubt, it is best to purchase an ANSI approved burner.

  3. Question #9474 - Posted: 4/7/2014 1:30:01 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/model.asp?SetModel=PL-CHASG10-16&FRONTWIDTH=32&BACKWIDTH=20&...

    QUESTION: I have a zero clearance fire place that had the chimney removed when the house was re-roofed. I never intend to burn wood in it again. It never worked very well burning wood. Ventless is an option, but what are my options for a vented log? I would not want to take the vent through the roof. Can it be vented to a side wall? What are the limitations for running vent horizontally (how long)? I live in St. Louis, MO. Firebox can handle a G10 18

    ANSWER: There are no options to vent a previous wood burning fireplace out a side wall, it must be vented through the roof as it was before in order to burn any gas logs, vented or ventless. Please do not burn anything in your fireplace without having he chimney installed as it was before...it will not be safe.

  4. Question #9467 - Posted: 4/3/2014 7:53:00 AM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: I am looking at model HRG45-24-P-SS. the gas line comes into the fireplace from the left side (looking forward at the fireplace). Will this burner-log set work? When I looked at the instruction manual, the diagram shows the gas line on the right.

    ANSWER: You can easily reroute the gas line to the left side using a longer flex tube or black pipe. Often times, depending on the location of your gas line, the flex tube that comes with the burner will reach the other side. If it does not, then you can purchase a longer flex tube from us or from a hardware store or home center.

  5. Question #9455 - Posted: 2/17/2014 9:10:47 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/vented/24-inch.asp

    QUESTION: Cn I just order the burner since I already have a 24 " split oak log set? My existing burner is leaking. Am looking at the G46-24 SPK.

    ANSWER: Yes, if you already have Peterson logs, we can supply you with the correct burner that is matched to them. The G46-24-SPK is one of the burners that is compatible with your logs. Give us a call and we will process your order over the phone. Call: 1-800-201-1193.

  6. Question #9454 - Posted: 2/17/2014 9:09:00 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/why-ventless-gaslogs-smell.asp

    QUESTION: Hello, Thank you for taking my question. We have install installed a ventless fire place Patterson.. The unit was complete but had no logs supplied. Bought new logs. Can any ventless log be used with the burner. Or are the logs and burner sold only in sets?

    ANSWER: Warning: Do not use any logs other than those designed for the particular burner you own. The logs are in fact specific to the burner. It is critical that you get the right logs because if the flame hits the logs differently than the original design it can cause the gas to burn incompletely. Incomplete combustion of gas results in the additional byproducts of soot and carbon monoxide (lethal and odorless), which will be introduced directly into your home.

  7. Question #9449 - Posted: 2/1/2014 3:26:13 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: I have a Peterson 18" gas log set I'm installing myself. The installation manual shows a right hand gas supply. My fireplace has a left gas supply. Can I just disassemble the burner pan and convert it to a left gas input and put the cap on the right? Or do I need to run a lot more pipe all the way from the left side to the right side? Thanks

    ANSWER: If you have a matchlight system (one without a safety pilot) then you can switch the plug and orifice from one side to the other to convert it to left gas input. If you have a safety pilot, it depends on the pilot system you have: some of them can and other cannot be reversed...it will be obvious because the pilot mechanism would be upside down when reversed. If such is the case, then either get a longer flex tube from a home center, or reroute the gas line using black pipe and elbows.

  8. Question #9448 - Posted: 1/30/2014 9:12:57 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/why-ventless-gaslogs-smell.asp

    QUESTION: We have a "Fire-Gear" vent-less propane fireplace. It gives off a noxious odor. We had it service but to no avail. We are thinking of replacing it w Peterson brand. Will this take care of our problem?

    ANSWER: Fire Gear is not a top quality brand like Peterson, so it is quite likely that replacing them with a better quality vent free gas log from Peterson will help reduce the odor. But it is important to be aware that ALL ventless appliances produce some odor because all of the byproducts of burning the fire are introduced into the room. Propane can be particularly worse than natural gas because the quality of the propane varies from supplier to supplier. The more impurities there are in the propane, the more potential there is for smell coming from burning a ventless gas log. Although we would love to sell you a new gas log set, we cannot guarantee that it would eliminate or reduce the odor. The only way to find out would be to install them. At least in that manner, you would know for sure whether it is the log set causing the problem, or the gas you are being supplied. Read more about what causes vent-free gas logs to produce a smell:

  9. Question #9447 - Posted: 1/30/2014 8:46:17 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/vented-vs-ventfree.asp

    QUESTION: My daughter has vented gas logs in her bedroom which is about 24x36. It is her primary heat system. Recently we noticed that the ceiling and top part of her walls were becoming covered in black soot. Why would the logs start this and is it dangerous to them. They have a 1 month old that sleeps in that room as well. I have noticed that some of the baby toys that are plastic have the black on them also. I am very nervous about this. Would it be better for them to get ventless with a heatalator?

    ANSWER: Please stop using the gas logs immediately, it is dangerous to use them if they are producing soot. Where there is soot, there is also carbon monoxide, which as you know is a lethal odorless gas. You need to have your gas logs serviced or replaced because they are no longer burning cleanly as vent free gas logs should. Some Heating and AC companies are qualified to service ventless appliances, so use your local yellow pages to call around. Or, you can use the resource on this page to locate a professional who is qualified to service your gas logs: Locate a Gas Log Service Professional.

  10. Question #9446 - Posted: 1/26/2014 3:14:39 PM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/ventless-btu-calculator.asp

    QUESTION: I have a Peterson real fire vented gas log system 18inch in my fireplace for several years and am very satisfied. I would like to change just the burner to make a vent free system for more heat. Is this possible. Thanks

    ANSWER: Unfortunately you cannot change just the burner in order to create a ventless gas log set. The burner and logs must be designed to work together, so you will need to buy a complete setup. The reason is that ventless gas logs must burn in a very controlled manner in order to burn cleanly. Any disruption to the way the flame burns, such as touching the logs in the wrong place, will cause the gas to burn incompletely and produce exhaust...including carbon monoxide and soot. So the flames cannot touch the logs in any manner in which the system was not designed...which means you must have the correct logs and they must be stacked exactly as described in the owners manual.

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