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Vented - vs - Vent Free Gas Logs
Find out which is best for your home...vented or ventless!


Similar Pages: Gas Log FAQs page! Why do Ventless Gas Logs Smell

Basic Overview

Vented Gas Logs Require a Fully Functional Wood Burning Fireplace, Ventless (or Vent Free) Gas Logs can be installed in either a wood burning fireplace, or a ventless fireplace that is rated for aftermarket ventless logs. Ventless gas logs will produce more heat, while vented gas logs will look much more realistic. Read the Pros and Cons of each below:


Vented Gas Logs:

"Fully Vented" gas logs and must be burned in a fireplace that is capable of burning real wood and must be burned with the damper open. The reason for this is that they do not burn the gas cleanly and create exhaust that is very similar to burning a real wood fire. This exhaust needs to be able to go up the chimney. The real beauty of vented gas logs is that they produce substantially more yellow flame than ventless logs which makes them look far more realistic. The downside is that most of the heat goes right up the chimney.

However, In most cases, you can offset this heat loss by slightly closing the damper...but you must be careful that the exhaust from your logs is not coming into the room because, just like burning real wood, it contains Carbon Monoxide. A good way to test this is to turn on your gas logs with the damper slightly closed. Hold a lighter or candle in front of the fireplace opening near the top. If the flame from the lighter (candle) is being drawn in toward the fireplace, then you are OK. If the flame is standing still or pushed out toward the room, then your fireplace is not drafting enough and you must open the damper more.

Positive Features of Vented Gas Logs:

  1. Extremely realistic flame pattern that looks like a wood fire.
  2. Flame is much taller than ventless logs
  3. Flame dances and wraps around logs like real wood.
  4. Does not require a CO2 detector
  5. Since the damper is open, most of the smell will go up the chimney

Negative Features of Vented Gas Logs:

Do's and Dont's for Vented Gas Logs
(Additional information you should read before buying Ventless Gas Logs)

  1. Less heat than ventless logs (probably won't heat your room)
  2. Uses slightly more gas than ventless logs

Check out some Vented Gas Log Installation Manuals Here before you purchase.


Ventless Gas Logs:

Ventless gas logs (often referred to as "Vent Free" gas logs) have specially designed burners that burn the gas cleanly and produce almost no exhaust...somewhat like the way a gas range in a kitchen works. Since there is little or no exhaust, they can be burned with the damper closed.

The beauty of this type of system is that 99.9% of the heat produced by the gas logs goes into the room, so they produce substantially more heat than their vented counter-parts. However, there are many negative features commonly associated with ventless logs that you must be aware of before you decide to purchase them:

Positive Features of Ventless Gas Logs:

  1. Much better heat output than vented gas logs
  2. Less pollution
  3. Slightly less gas consumption

Negative Features of Ventless Gas Logs:

Do's and Dont's for Ventless Gas Logs
(Additional information you should read before buying Ventless Gas Logs)

  1. Since the byproduct of burning gas cleanly is water, ventless logs will introduce excess moisture into your home which can result in mold or mildew.
  2. You must be careful not to burn your ventless logs for extended periods of time with windows closed, otherwise they will deplete the oxygen in your home.
  3. If you burn your ventless logs for more than an hour or so, you must crack open a window to allow air into your home to replace the oxygen burned by the ventless logs. This will introduce cold air into the room and offset some of the heating benefits that ventless logs claim to have.
  4. Ventless logs produce an odor that many people equate to the smell of burning kerosene. So if you have a sensitive nose, you may not be able to handle the smell and will be greatly dissatisfied with ventless logs. On the other hand, we've heard some people who like the smell because it reminds them of their childhood days at Grandma's house. (Read Why Ventless Gas Logs Smell)
  5. Ventless logs can cause eye irritation and coughing spells to those who are sensitive.
  6. Ventless logs are not legal in California as well as some cities and municipalities. However, you can still purchase ventless logs from us if you live in California...you will just have to burn them with the damper open (which really defeats the purpose).
  7. Ventless logs are required to have an ODS (oxygen depletion system) as well as a CO2 detector...which might tell you that there are some risks involved in operating them if these systems fail.
  8. The flame pattern with ventless logs pails in comparison to vented logs. Because the gas must burn cleanly, the flame height is very low and most of it is blue.
  9. Also, you will find that the flame does not dance around like a real wood fire and very little of the flame actually touches the logs. The reason for this is that when the flame touches the logs, it gets cooled off and does not burn cleanly and starts to produce soot and exhaust gases.
  10. Installing vent-free gas logs is not a DIY job. Installation must be performed by a professional who can do the proper tests on your gas pressure and make sure that the installation meets building codes and follows the specifications required.
  11. Clearances to combustables is different than that of wood buring fires or vented gas logs. If there is a mantel above the fireplace, you may need to install a hood to divert heat away from it. You should check the Installation Manual for the Ventless Logs for clearance requirements before you order them.
  12. There are also BTU limitations based on the cubic feet of air available to your room. The maximum BTUs allowed is calculated using this formula: Room Width x Room Length x Ceiling Height x 20.
  13. Ventless gas logs may not be legal in a bedroom or confined space (differs with local building codes).
  14. Other restrictions apply with each of the various burner systems available, so again, you should read the installation manual pertaining to the ventless logs you are considering "Before You Purchase".


Bottom Line: We highly recommend that you purchase vented gas logs. You will be much happier with flame that they produce and less likely to experience discomfort from odors or irritation. We only recommend ventless logs when maximizing the heat output outweighs all of the other negative aspects.


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Answers to Recent Gas Logs Questions Posted To This Page
  1. Question #9272 - Posted: 1/28/2012 11:04:54 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/gaslogfaqs.asp

    we have direct vent gas fireplace, has on-off switch - will fireplace work when the power is out?

    Answer: We do not sell or support direct vent fireplaces. I would suggest that you Google the make and model of your fireplace to see if you can come up with an owners manual so you can learn how it operates. If you use the advanced search feature for Google you can select to search only for .pdf files, which will make it much easier to refine your search.

  2. Question #9267 - Posted: 1/12/2012 2:40:29 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    Why do gas logs smoke up a room?

    Answer: Gas logs should NOT smoke up a room, so if that is what is happening with your gas log set, then something is definitely wrong. If you are burning the logs with your damper closed, that would explain it. But I assume that you are not doing that. It is possible that something is blocking your chimney, so you may need to have a chimney sweep come take a look. Some fireplaces are poorly designed and simply do not create enough draft, so both gas logs and real wood will smoke up the house. If your house is tightly sealed, your fireplace may not be able to create a draft, in which case you will need to open a window. It could be the gas log set you own is poorly made or installed incorrectly.

    If you email me some pictures of your fireplace and gas logs, I may be able to give you more direct input. Email your pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  3. Question #9266 - Posted: 1/8/2012 10:09:18 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/burners.asp

    My fireplace does not have a damper but I want vented logs in it . What will I need to do in order to have vented gas logs in it?

    Answer: You do not have to have a damper to use vented gas logs since they are supposed to be burned with the damper open anyways. But, you must have a chimney. So, when you say you do not have a damper, do you actually have a chimney that vents the fireplace to above the roof line, or is it sealed off at the top inside your fireplace where the damper should be? If you email me some pictures of your fireplace so I can see what is inside...including how it looks at the top inside the opening, I may be able to offer you more information. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  4. Question #9263 - Posted: 1/7/2012 11:13:21 AM

    Gas Logs Question

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    We want to be able to leave ventless gas logs on low setting all night to supplement our heat pump when it is going to be very cold (in teens to single digits) overnight, are these made to withstand this type of use?

    Answer: Ventless gas logs are not supposed to be burned for more than 6 continuous hours per day or more than a total of 40 hours per week. The owners manual on every ventless gas log will state this quite clearly. This is a national building code standard for your safety. The reason is that they produce a lot of water vapor, which can certainly lead to the production of mold and mildew if they are over-used. They also deplete the oxygen in the air and replace it with carbon dioxide, which is not healthy. They should NEVER be operated when you are sleeping or not in the room for extended periods of time.

  5. Question #9262 - Posted: 1/4/2012 10:32:34 PM

    Gas Logs Question - R.H. Peterson Model PL-CHFRG10-30-15P

    View  model PL-CHFRG10-30-15P
    PL-CHFRG10-30-15P - http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/model.asp?SetModel=PL-CHFRG10-30-15P

    I have a G10-30-15P unit. Can I have the 15P control replaced by the 01VP control? If so, what is the cost?

    Answer: You cannot just replace the control and value, you must replace the entire burner system. This is part of the safety regulations for ventless products. There is no allowance for field conversions of ventless gas logs.

  6. Question #9261 - Posted: 12/31/2011 12:41:59 PM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/remote-gas-logs.asp

    I have gas logs in my original fireplace. I want to increase the heat output and want a remote control. What are my options? Thanks, Elizabeth

    Answer: Very little can be done to increase the heat output of an existing gas log, so you are most likely going to have to replace it with one designed for heat. Since you apparently are not getting much heat from your gas logs right now I assume you have a vented gas log set that must be burned with the damper open, so the heat goes up the chimney. If you really want heat, you need to replace the entire burner and log setup with a new Ventless gas log that can be burned with the damper closed. Ventless gas logs are not for everybody because they produce an odor that some people just do not like. My suggestion would be to read this article: Vented -vs- Ventless Gas Logs. I would also suggest that you email me some pictures of your fireplace and gas logs so I can see what you have as well as what could potentially be installed. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com and include your fireplace measurements (front width, front height, depth, rear width).

  7. Question #9260 - Posted: 12/31/2011 12:35:35 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    Hello, I need 30" fireplace logs but want some with a great flame. I have logs but flame is very small,what set do you recommend that looks like a blazing fire?

    Answer: Without knowing how much flame you are getting right now it is difficult to compare to what you might expect to get from the best logs on the market today. Can you possibly take some pictures of your gas logs both on and off so I can see what we are up against?

    I will say that often times people buy logs that are simply too large for the fireplace. The larger the log set, the lower the flame is...which is just the nature of the beast. The reason being that there are building code restrictions on the amount of gas a burner can use, so the wider the burner is, the less height the flame can be. You might find that switching to a 24" gas log will produce the flame you desire without compromising the appearance in your fireplace. There are some 24" sets that are rather massive and may look better proportioned in your fireplace than the 30" set you have.

    So if you can email me some pictures, I will be able to give you more pertinent advice. I would also like the following measurements of your fireplace:

    Front Opening Width:
    Front Opening Height:
    Back Width:
    Depth front to back:

    Email pictures and info to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  8. Question #9259 - Posted: 12/31/2011 10:08:31 AM

    Gas Logs Question - R.H. Peterson Model PL-CHDG4-24

    View  model PL-CHDG4-24
    PL-CHDG4-24 - http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/model.asp?SetModel=PL-CHDG4-24

    Hi, We moved to a house in the ATL area w/Marco model 7928626 (solid wood fuel only). Dimensions are 30" Front X 15" Depth X 25" Rear width. Gas logs were already installed. We get major soot when lighting so we called out a local sweep. The sweep cleaned/inspected the chimney and quoted new charred oak logs for $821 (not sure if incl burner). Reading your site it looks like our soot problem may be related to having a gas starter which he never mentioned. What kind of setup can we get?

    Answer: Can you email me some pictures of your fireplace? Show me the entire fireplace as well as some shots of what you have inside. I'm sure I will be able to give you a second opinion as well as save you some money on the log set. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  9. Question #9257 - Posted: 12/31/2011 9:59:53 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/why-ventless-gaslogs-smell.asp

    My Peterson gas logs are about 4 yrs old. The remote worked fine for two years but now does not. What could the problem be? Could it be the battery and can that be replaced?

    Answer: It is most likely the batteries. There is a battery in both the transmitter and the receiver. You should be able to find the battery easily. Replace both batteries, and if it does not solve your problem then email me directly and I'll help you get in touch with someone who can troubleshoot your burner.

  10. Question #9254 - Posted: 12/31/2011 9:29:27 AM

    Gas Logs Question

    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/how-safety-pilot-works.asp

    I have a gas fireplace with on pilot valve is this legle in California or should I install a pilot failsafe valve?

    Answer: Can you please restate your question...it does not make sense to me. Also, can you email me a picture of your fireplace and gas logs? That might help explain what you are trying to ask. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

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