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Vented - vs - Vent Free Gas Logs
Find out which is best for your home...vented or ventless!


Similar Pages: Gas Log FAQs page! Why do Ventless Gas Logs Smell

Basic Overview

Vented Gas Logs Require a Fully Functional Wood Burning Fireplace, Ventless (or Vent Free) Gas Logs can be installed in either a wood burning fireplace, or a ventless fireplace that is rated for aftermarket ventless logs. Ventless gas logs will produce more heat, while vented gas logs will look much more realistic. Read the Pros and Cons of each below:


Vented Gas Logs:

"Fully Vented" gas logs must be burned in a fireplace that is capable of burning real wood and must be burned with the damper open. The reason for this is that they do not burn the gas cleanly and create exhaust that is very similar to burning a real wood fire. This exhaust needs to be able to go up the chimney. The real beauty of vented gas logs is that they produce substantially more yellow flame than ventless logs which makes them look far more realistic. The downside is that most of the heat goes right up the chimney.

However, In most cases, you can offset this heat loss by slightly closing the damper...but you must be careful that the exhaust from your logs is not coming into the room because, just like burning real wood, it contains Carbon Monoxide. A good way to test this is to turn on your gas logs with the damper slightly closed. Hold a lighter or candle in front of the fireplace opening near the top. If the flame from the lighter (candle) is being drawn in toward the fireplace, then you are OK. If the flame is standing still or pushed out toward the room, then your fireplace is not drafting enough and you must open the damper more.

Positive Features of Vented Gas Logs:

  1. Extremely realistic flame pattern that looks like a wood fire.
  2. Flame is much taller than ventless logs
  3. Flame dances and wraps around logs like real wood.
  4. Does not require a CO2 detector
  5. Since the damper is open, most of the smell will go up the chimney

Negative Features of Vented Gas Logs:

Do's and Dont's for Vented Gas Logs
(Additional information you should read before buying Ventless Gas Logs)

  1. Less heat than ventless logs (probably won't heat your room)
  2. Uses slightly more gas than ventless logs

Check out some Vented Gas Log Installation Manuals Here before you purchase.


Ventless Gas Logs:

Ventless gas logs (often referred to as "Vent Free" gas logs) have specially designed burners that burn the gas cleanly and produce almost no exhaust...somewhat like the way a gas range in a kitchen works. Since there is little or no exhaust, they can be burned with the damper closed.

The beauty of this type of system is that 99.9% of the heat produced by the gas logs goes into the room, so they produce substantially more heat than their vented counter-parts. However, there are many negative features commonly associated with ventless logs that you must be aware of before you decide to purchase them:

Positive Features of Ventless Gas Logs:

  1. Much better heat output than vented gas logs
  2. Less pollution
  3. Slightly less gas consumption

Negative Features of Ventless Gas Logs:

Do's and Dont's for Ventless Gas Logs
(Additional information you should read before buying Ventless Gas Logs)

  1. The main byproducts of burning gas cleanly are Carbon Dioxide and Water Vapor. Because of this, ventless gas logs will introduce excess moisture into your home which can result in mold or mildew.
  2. You must be careful not to burn your ventless logs for extended periods of time with windows closed, otherwise they can potentially deplete the oxygen in your home.
  3. If you burn your ventless logs for more than an hour or so, you must crack open a window to allow air into your home to replace the oxygen burned by the ventless logs. This will introduce cold air into the room and offset some of the heating benefits that ventless logs claim to have.
  4. Ventless logs produce an odor that many people equate to the smell of burning kerosene. So if you have a sensitive nose, you may not be able to handle the smell and will be greatly dissatisfied with ventless logs. On the other hand, we've heard some people who like the smell because it reminds them of their childhood days at Grandma's house. (Read Why Ventless Gas Logs Smell)
  5. Ventless logs can cause eye irritation and coughing spells to those who are sensitive.
  6. Ventless logs are not legal in California as well as some cities and municipalities. However, you can still purchase ventless logs from us if you live in California...you will just have to burn them with the damper open (which really defeats the purpose).
  7. Ventless logs are required to have an ODS (oxygen depletion system) as well as a CO2 detector...which might tell you that there are some risks involved in operating them if these systems fail.
  8. The flame pattern with ventless logs is not nearly as realistic in comparison to vented logs. Because the gas must burn cleanly, the flame height is very low, it is more blue than yellow and appears to be more nerveous and less lofty.
  9. Also, you will find that the flame does not dance around like a real wood fire and very little of the flame actually touches the logs. The reason for this is that when the flame touches the logs, it gets cooled off and does not burn cleanly and starts to produce soot and exhaust gases.
  10. Installing vent-free gas logs is not a DIY job. Installation must be performed by a professional who can do the proper tests on your gas pressure and make sure that the installation meets building codes and follows the specifications required.
  11. Clearances to combustables is different than that of wood buring fires or vented gas logs. If there is a mantel above the fireplace, you may need to install a hood to divert heat away from it. You should check the Installation Manual for the Ventless Logs for clearance requirements before you order them.
  12. There are also BTU limitations based on the cubic feet of air available to your room. The maximum BTUs allowed is calculated using this formula: Room Width x Room Length x Ceiling Height x 20.
  13. Ventless gas logs may not be legal in a bedroom or confined space (differs with local building codes).
  14. Other restrictions apply with each of the various burner systems available, so again, you should read the installation manual pertaining to the ventless logs you are considering "Before You Purchase".


Bottom Line: We highly recommend that you purchase vented gas logs. You will be much happier with flame that they produce and less likely to experience discomfort from odors or irritation. We only recommend ventless logs when maximizing the heat output outweighs all of the other negative aspects.


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Answers to Recent Gas Logs Questions Posted To This Page
  1. Question #9369 - Posted: 1/28/2013 12:45:20 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: is there a way to purchase an electric igniter for our existing vent free gas logs that do not have a remote control?

    ANSWER: In most cases you cannot add an electric igniter to an existing vent free gas log. Vent free gas logs have strict regulations and require that the valve and safety pilot be assembled and tested at the factory. So there is no way to do that in a field conversion. Are you looking for an electronic ignition system or just any type of system that can use a remote control...there is a big difference between them and electronic ignition is substantially more expensive than a standard remote safety pilot. Can you email me some pictures of what you have so I can offer further advice? Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  2. Question #9367 - Posted: 1/11/2013 2:10:09 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: We have a log set (Napoleon) that was installed approx 3 months ago and we love it. However just today we went to turn it on and within 5-10 seconds the flame turns off. It ignites and then shuts down. Can you help?

    ANSWER: I am sorry, we do not sell or offer support for Napoleon products. I would suggest that you contact the company that sold you the logs for help. As with most reputable gas log manufacturers, they require the seller to offer support for their products. If you cannot get help from the place where you purchased the logs, contact Napoleon directly to find an alternative. Here is a link to their contact page and dealer locator online: http://www.napoleonfireplaces.com/contact/

  3. Question #9365 - Posted: 1/11/2013 1:56:03 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: I live in the Nashville area. Do you have any contacts here who can quote me to install a wood burning fireplace? I have no flue, have ventless. I hate it- I smell gas and no oxygen. My kids and I are too sensitive to it, but we LOVE fireplace ambiance. Thanks!

    ANSWER: I cannot give you a contact to install a fireplace in your local area. I suggest you check the yellow pages to find a local fireplace shop. They are going to be the best resource for getting a new fireplace installed. You may also do well by referring to the resources available online at the National Fireplace Institute.

  4. Question #9363 - Posted: 1/11/2013 1:35:30 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: I have 2 Buck Stove ventless fireplace log inserts and neither one wants to regulate by thermostat. When they are "on" they stay on and dont shut off until I flip the control box off. any idea how to make them work by temperature? Im pretty sure they are supposed to do that.

    ANSWER: We do not sell or support products made by Buck Stove. I recommend that you contact Buck Stove customer service. They will most likely refer you to your nearest local dealer. Here is a link to their contact info: http://www.buckstove.com/contact.html

  5. Question #9362 - Posted: 1/11/2013 1:21:24 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: We have a ventless gas fireplace. It is located on an exterior wall of our brick home. The wall on the exterior is on our patio. What would be involved to convert it to vented? What do you think would be the approximate cost? Who should we call if it is a reasonable thing to do? Thanks very much.

    ANSWER: For starters, you cannot "convert" a ventless fireplace to a vented fireplace per-say. You must remove the existing ventless firebox and replace it with completely different type of fireplace that has a chimney or vent. My suggestion is to replace it with a wood burning fireplace. This allows you to burn either wood or gas logs. It is also best for resale value since it allows the potential buyer the same options.

    As far as the cost...it is all over the place depending on what you decide to do. You should have a local professional to come to your home and give you an estimate. When I sold fireplaces at a retail fireplace shop, the final cost including installation ranged anywhere from $7,500 to $25,000 depending on the complexity of the installation and the finished appearance of the fireplace. We also sold simple to very elaborate hand carved fireplace mantels that could cost as much as $10,000 just for the mantel. So how the fireplace is finished has a huge impact on the cost. The bare minimum would just be a fireplace with no decorative surround...maybe just a brick or tile facing with some wood trim...for a total of about $7500 installed (that is a prefabricated wood burning fireplace with a metal chimney).

    I would suggest visiting local fireplace shops. They should at least be able to get you started in the right direction. These are the options you will need to explore. I would suggest you do some research online about the differences between these:

    B-Vent (natural vent) gas fireplaces
    Direct Vent gas fireplaces
    Zero Clearance wood buring fireplaces.

    We do not sell fireplaces (although I did for many years in a local fireplace shop). We sell only the gas logs that go into an existing fireplace. So if you like the looks of the vented gas logs you see on our website, they would require you to have installed a wood burning fireplace with a gas line piped into it. Vented gas logs are much more for enjoyment and realism than for heat.

    Here is a link to our vented gas logs:
    http://www.hansenwholesale.com/gas-logs/

    You may also want to use the resources at the National Fireplace Institute website. You can find qualified fireplace installers in your area using their resource locator. Here is a link to their website:
    www.nficertified.org.

  6. Question #9361 - Posted: 1/11/2013 1:18:05 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: How do the logs stack on the model G6-24N We are moving them to a new location and dont have a picture now as we purchesed them years ago.

    ANSWER: G6-24N is not a model number that I recognize for a complete gas log set from R. H. Peterson. Is it a Peterson gas log set? If it is, the model number does not indicate which logs you have, although it could be just the burner. Can you email me some pictures of what you have...the burner and the logs...maybe I will recognize it. Email your pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  7. Question #9359 - Posted: 1/5/2013 12:14:20 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: having trouble with ventless logs took them out lit system after awhile it just clicks off .

    ANSWER: I suggest you have someone come out and service them...it is not something that the consumer is generally qualified to do or capable of doing. If you read the owners manual for your logs (if you have one), you will see what I mean. Gas log manufacturers recommend that you have your ventless gas logs serviced annually by a qualified technician who can make sure the pilot and main gas valve are properly calibrated, clean the burner system and make any other adjustments or repairs necessary to keep you ventless logs in a safe operating condition.

    You can use this link on our site to locate a qualified technician in your area: Who Installs Gas Logs?.

  8. Question #9358 - Posted: 1/5/2013 12:08:07 PM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: Does my vent free gas log set-fireplace need to be caliberated? Do the fake logs need to be replaced periodically for reasons other than aesthetic?

    ANSWER: Gas log manufacturers recommend that you have your ventless gas logs serviced annually by a qualified technician who can make sure the pilot and main gas valve are properly calibrated, clean the burner system and make any other adjustments or repairs necessary to keep you ventless logs in a safe operating condition.

    You can use this link on our site to locate a qualified technician in your area: Who Installs and Services Gas Logs?.

  9. Question #9356 - Posted: 1/5/2013 11:26:10 AM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: I recently bought a home with a Majestic MR42 insert. Right now it has a propane hookup to it, with fake logs. I would like to remove the hookup, and burn wood, which (from what I can tell) the insert is rated to do. The flue and chimney venting looks to be in fine condition. Anything that I should be checking, before I do this?

    ANSWER: The MR42 is certainly a wood burning fireplace, so you can simply remove the gas logs and cap off the gas line. Just make sure you do a pressure test with soapy water to make sure there are no leaks...or remove the propane hookup altogether. You should certainly have the fireplace inspected and cleaned by a certified chimney sweep before you burn wood in it. This should be done annually. The chimney sweep will also be capable of removing the gas logs and taking care of anything else that needs to be done in order to insure you can burn wood safely. If you can email me some pictures of your fireplace, I may have other suggestions regarding glass doors a screen or anything else you may need. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

  10. Question #9355 - Posted: 1/5/2013 11:12:18 AM

    Gas Logs Question

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    QUESTION: I just had a Peterson 18' Vent Free log set installed (G10 burner) in my prefab Majestic fireplace (circa 1987). After I cured them with the damper open, I tried them with it closed...and within 20 minutes the tile and dry wall above the firebox was so hot I was afraid of the wall catching fire and shut it off? When I called the installer they told me to come right in and suggested (somewhat anxiously) that I swith to vented logs at their expense? But THEY sold me the vent free...what gives?

    ANSWER: When it comes to prefabricated fireplaces, ventless gas logs are only to be installed if the fireplace has been tested and approved for the application. The owners manual for the fireplace must stipulate that they are approved. There may also be limitations to the BTUs allow and in many cases, a special hood must be installed above the fireplace opening to divert the heat away from above the fireplace.

    Because your fireplace is so old, it is not likely that it was ever tested and approved for use with ventless gas logs. If you had contacted us prior to purchasing your gas logs we would have tried to locate a copy of the owners manual for your fireplace online in order to determine if ventless logs were suitable. We would have told you NOT to purchase them if we could not determine their suitability.

    It is a good thing that the place where you purchased the logs is willing to swap your log set out for a vented set at their expense. I can also see why they would be somewhat anxious to do so since they do not want to take on the liability of having your house burn down. So I would suggest you take them up on their offer, or get a refund and go elsewhere.

    Can you email me some pictures of your fireplace? If so, include a closeup of the metal label that has the brand and model number. The label should be just inside the opening on either side or at the top. With the info on the label, I may be able to find the owners manual for you and get the exact specifications that you need in order to get to the bottom line...although it seems more likely to me that you should simply be burning vented gas logs. Email pictures to: gregt@hansenwholesale.com

    For those reading this post, ventless gas logs CAN be installed in hand built masonry fireplaces that are capable of burning real wood. Here is a link to more information about Where Ventless Gas Logs Can Be Installed.

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